[kwlug-disc] What do people dis/like for things like github.com these days?

CrankyOldBugger crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Sun Oct 23 11:15:22 EDT 2016


addendum... found the article..
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/under-new-management-sourceforge-moves-to-put-badness-in-past/


On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 at 11:13 CrankyOldBugger <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I agree that Sourceforge has had some dark days, but since they got bought
> out a few months ago I've noticed some improvements.  They seem to have
> removed all the bundled crapware and stuff as per new management's
> directives.  There was an article on it recently but I can't find the link
> yet...
>
>
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 at 10:25 Hubert Chathi <hubert at uhoreg.ca> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 19:40:50 -0400, "B.S." <bs27975.2 at gmail.com> said:
>
> > Seems to me when things like github.com have come up in the list,
> > occasionally there has been a note of dislike or unhappiness with them
> > - mostly on a philosophical level? (Some level of non-freedom?
> > Proprietary-ness?)  The specifics escape me at the moment.
>
> Proprietary-ness is the most common complaint.  Linus also dislikes
> Github's pull-request mechanism, and I agree with him -- I would much
> rather work with emailed patches.  I also dislike how people are now
> treating their README as a project homepage due to the way Github is
> structured, and not many people are giving their projects a proper
> homepage.
>
> > Anyone with any particular likes or dislikes for such these days?
> > (Not looking to start a flamewar - I have no opinions.)
>
> For git hosting, I use a combination of a self-hosted repository (which
> only I have write access to) with a cgit front-end, and hosted (free)
> gitlab.com.  I've heard that Gogs is easier to self-host than GitLab,
> but I personally don't have any experience self-hosting either.
>
> > At the moment I'm only thinking about individual files or scripts, not
> > packaging or building - although that's an interesting topic too. For
> > that sourceforge immediately comes to mind - not for its quality, or
> > lack thereof, but because its been noteworthy as having various issues
> > over the years.
>
> If you want something like SourceForge, but that isn't SourceForge,
> there's also GNU's Savannah (https://savannah.nongnu.org/ -- if your
> project is Free software), or you can host your own site with something
> like https://fusionforge.org/
>
> > Mind you, I suppose one appreciates additional facilities like
> > documentation repositories, wiki's, issue tracking, and the like, as
> > they both seem to - be it for such standalone files, or more. Tracking
> > number of views, I suppose, would be a minimum.
>
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