[kwlug-disc] Cloud vs/and 'P2P VPN' (?) - why / what's out there.
unsolicited at swiz.ca
Thu Jan 23 10:31:09 EST 2014
There has been a fair bit of discussion recently surrounding Clouds and
Although I have always had difficulty with the concept/need (since I
don't run a web server), it making more sense to me to make use of
inevitably excess computing horsepower we have in our homes. Especially
if merely investigating the usefulness of a facility. i.e. Does 'this'
bring anything to the party / problem I am trying to solve at that moment.
SSH, VNC, and Dropbox (et al) serve well for what they do. [My issue
with Dropbox is the lack of file, let alone field, locking.]
For particular use cases, a VPN, especially for windows file sharing,
let alone general inter-network access, has made more sense, and worked
In this latter case, Logmein Hamachi has been wonderful, both Linux and
Windows - particularly as it punches through NAT / doesn't require
firewall ports to be opened. It talks to a central server, direct
connection details are negotiated, and clients instructed to use them.
The 'cloud' server is only used long enough to sort that stuff out. Once
sorted, everything happens home to home. Unlike OpenVPN which requires
ports to be opened, at least for the server, which isn't always possible.
Sadly, for good security reasons, Logmein Hamachi will not do gateway to
gateway. Nor can a client talk to more than 1 gateway at a time.
Apparently the (search) term for this is 'P2P VPN'.
Are there other such services out there like Hamachi that people like?
I've seen references to Tunngle, Wippien, NeoRouter, Remobo.
Anyone have any comments or experiences or suggestions?
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