[kwlug-disc] Cross platform, cross-protocol messaging client

Andrew Mercer andrew at andrewmercer.net
Fri Dec 5 11:11:57 EST 2014


Why use Skype except to video chat with relatives that live far away at 
Christmas time? It then only becomes a once a year requirement to run 
that piece of junk!

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Andrew Mercer
www.andrewmercer.net

On 2014-12-05 04:28, B.S. wrote:
> If Skype is in the mix, no way around needing multiple applications.
> 
> Confusion isn't just different iterations of gtalk -> hangouts, it's
> different availability by platform. e.g. voice / chat inconsistently
> implemented across platforms (e.g. gmail), gtalk only no hangouts on
> bb (iirc), I forget which or both for iPhone, ...
> 
> Cranky, you may be as well off looking at voip with jabber/chat
> facilities as pidgin or anything else - if you have to change, may as
> well change to the most functionality possible for fewer apps to
> master. Skype is unavoidable. With time you can move people over (if
> you have VoIP {something} VoIP clients can call you free - they don't
> need their own VoIP service or anything), but you'll never get 100%
> success. Linphone and Ekiga come to mind.
> 
> Reading between the lines, you have a high Skype WAF, and I doubt
> you'll ever move her off. As a result, she'll probably add more people
> to it for chat before you'll get her to migrate to something else.
> (For her it ain't broken, doesn't need fixing .. ?)
> 
> Good luck! We feel your pain.
> 
> 
> On 12/04/2014 08:37 PM, Nick Guenther wrote:
>> I've had mixed results with this. It seems that at least if the other
>> end is using the old style gtalk web client, I can still add people.
>> The confusion probably comes because gmail end-user types probably
>> don't notice if they're on Hangouts, old web gtalk, or Windows
>> GTalk.
>> 
>> On December 4, 2014 2:12:02 PM EST, Jason Locklin
>> <locklin.jason at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Skype is a complete black box. Libpurple, and the various clients
>>> that use it (like Pidgin, Adium, Bitlbee, etc) can pretend to have
>>> Skype text chat functionality by running Skype in the background
>>> and accessing the friend list and chats via an API.
>>> 
>>> Google has also been transitioning away from XMPP/Jabber with
>>> their Hangouts. The Jabber interface for the 1-on-1 chat in Gmail
>>> is still available, but who knows for how long, and, from what I
>>> understand, adding new people now to your friend list may not be
>>> possible.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 14-12-04 12:18 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>>>> You can interface with Google Talk through many clients, but you
>>>> will not have Hangout video/audio capabilities.
>>>> 
>>>> Skype is a proprietary protocol and to my knowledge was never
>>>> fully supported for voice on any of the open clients.
>>>> 
>>>> Since the other parties you are connecting to are already on
>>>> these services, alternative protocols are seldom an option.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 12:06 PM, CrankyOldBugger
>>>> <crankyoldbugger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone out there know of a good cross-platform (Linux,
>>>>> Windows
>>> and
>>>>> Android) messaging client that can import and handle Skype,
>>>>> Google Talk/Hangouts, and IRC friends lists?  As it sits, I
>>>>> have at least
>>> three
>>>>> different messaging clients running at any one time, I'd like
>>>>> to
>>> roll them
>>>>> all into one app if possible...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've used Pidgin before but I found the Skype addons a bit
>>>>> flaky..
> 
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