[kwlug-disc] The sweet(?) smell of power supplies

CrankyOldBugger crankyoldbugger at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 11:34:53 EDT 2014


What if she mounted shares on a NAS box instead of local HDDs?



On 7 April 2014 11:32, Darcy Casselman <dscassel at gmail.com> wrote:

> 1TB isn't nearly enough.
>
> More like 8.
>
> Darcy.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM, L.D. Paniak <ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com
> > wrote:
>
>>  OK.  What amount of disk capacity are we talking about? Anything up to
>> 1TB can be done today for a reasonable amount of coin on SSD.
>> What are the interfaces for specialized hardware?  PCIe? Interface count?
>>
>> I suspect you can build a remarkably fast system inside of 150W with a
>> bit of research.  Intel E3-series v3 Xeons/Haswell CPUs pack a pile of
>> performance into 60-80W - at a decent price.  Especially if the software
>> uses recent instruction extensions eg AVX.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/07/2014 11:09 AM, Darcy Casselman wrote:
>>
>>  I'd agree, but she wants to do video and audio rendering.  She needs
>> multiple spinning platter harddrives and some specialist video capture and
>> sound hardware.
>>
>>  I was able to talk her down from needing a 750W+ power supply (she
>> doesn't need 3D graphics at all), but yeah, something in the 500W
>> neighbourhood is more reasonable.
>>
>> Darcy.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:56 AM, L.D. Paniak <
>> ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree.  I have been using pico-PSU/AC brick solutions on systems up to
>>> 100W with great success.  For 95%+ of computing that more than enough to
>>> get the job done.
>>>
>>> There are many "mini-systems" of this type available:
>>>
>>> http://www.canadacomputers.com/search_result.php?checkVal0=0&subcat04=5&checkVal1=1&checkVal2=1&checkVal3=1&checkVal4=1&checkVal5=1&checkVal6=1&checkVal7=1&checkVal8=1&checkVal9=1&pagePos=0&keywords=&manu=0&search=1&ccid=1203&cPath=7_1203
>>>
>>> Especially good are the Intel NUC series (if a little more expensive).
>>>
>>> I recently bought a 430W Corsair ATX PSU and the smell of the fancy
>>> paint finish nearly knocked me off my feet.  It took several days to
>>> dissipate. I am not sure what the motivation is here.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/07/2014 10:44 AM, Jason Locklin wrote:
>>> > Just for fun, this would be approximately the best you can do while
>>> > staying safely under 150Watts and staying reasonably priced:
>>> >
>>> >> PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO
>>> >> Price breakdown by merchant:
>>> http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/by_merchant/
>>> >> Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3nyKO/benchmarks/
>>> >>
>>> >> CPU: Intel Core i3-2120T 2.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($160.80 @
>>> Amazon Canada)
>>> >> Motherboard: MSI H67MA-E35 (B3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard
>>>  ($88.02 @ Amazon Canada)
>>> >> Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  ($79.99 @ Canada
>>> Computers)
>>> >> Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
>>>  ($129.99 @ NCIX)
>>> >>
>>> >> Total: $458.80
>>> >> Estimated Wattage: 109W
>>> >>
>>> >> Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
>>> >> (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-04-07 10:33 EDT-0400)
>>> > That would scream running Linux, but would be lacking for gaming. No
>>> > idea what Windows needs nowadays though. That website is too much fun.
>>> > Now, back to work... right...
>>> >
>>> > -Jason
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon 07 Apr 2014 10:02:49 AM EDT, Darcy Casselman wrote:
>>> >> She has rather formidable power requirements, but we were talking
>>> about
>>> >> whether something like this was available. I'll pass it along. Thanks.
>>> >>
>>> >> Darcy.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Jason Locklin <
>>> locklin.jason at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Have you thought of building a low-power system with something like
>>> one
>>> >>> of these:
>>> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104186
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Transformer is sealed in plastic, so no dust/smell from it. Thinking
>>> >>> about building a system like this with one of the low-power Haswell
>>> >>> chips and an SSD, myself (not for the smell, I just like
>>> >>> power-efficient, quiet machines).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -Jason
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 14-04-05 03:56 PM, Darcy Casselman wrote:
>>> >>>> PC hardware question, not specific to Linux, but some of you folks
>>> may
>>> >>> have
>>> >>>> ideas.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> My partner has some rather significant allergies and sensitivities.
>>>  She
>>> >>>> also needs to replace her 12-year-old desktop computer.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> In general electronics tend to be okay for her, but the power supply
>>> >>> seems
>>> >>>> to be a stumbling block.  New power supplies smell really bad,
>>> triggering
>>> >>>> her sensitivities.  And they're blowing that bad air into her living
>>> >>> space.
>>> >>>> Does anyone know of a retailer that sells power supplies that she'd
>>> be
>>> >>> able
>>> >>>> to crack open a bunch and give them a sniff-test?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Is there somewhere we can look at used power supplies, preferably
>>> from
>>> >>>> hopefully neutral office environments (rather than, say, the homes
>>> of
>>> >>>> smokers or pet owners)?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> We're not entirely sure what it is in the power supplies that is
>>> >>> triggering
>>> >>>> her.  We know that the PVC wiring is bad (I'm not holding out much
>>> hope,
>>> >>>> but if someone knows of a manufacturer that coats their wires in
>>> >>> something
>>> >>>> other than PVC, that would be very useful to know).  But we've
>>> tried a
>>> >>>> bunch and haven't come up with much luck.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Any suggestions would be helpful.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Thanks!
>>> >>>> Darcy.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
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