[kwlug-disc] Cable Modem.

unsolicited unsolicited at swiz.ca
Tue Dec 3 00:24:54 EST 2013


The free VoIP thing was all over their forums when first introduced, for 
the same reasons as you note. Apparently it's only for new customers, 
and they've had to beat the mob back to stick to it.

Perhaps you just ran into some fatigue on the matter.

- although, I forget, you may be eligible if you moved to cable. (?) 
i.e. It's service switching that matters, not just new customer at all?

FWIW, I've always thought it would be a bad idea. If part of the point 
of vendor selection is to be vendor independent, getting VoIP with your 
carrier, then maybe having to move, seems counter-intuitive - if there 
are other choices available.

If you're interested, you can all but do voip.ms for free. You can do 
everything but make calls without paying anything, and since voip to 
voip is free, after you make an initial US$25 deposit, you may never 
actually use any of it. By using a free registrar, such as sip2sip, 
you'll also be able to make voip to voip calls / test things out, as 
well. Before spending the $25.

You're probably going to want an ATA one way or another - and with an 
ATA, some port forwards, and dynamic dns, people can call you for free 
anyways. e.g. sip:adam at glauser.com. Outgoing to voip would be free, 
already, too. (Just not to real phone numbers until the $25.)

Having the ATA beforehand is a good way to get your feet wet, too.

Even simply forwarding voip.ms to your local line, or using its DISA for 
long distance (from home or cell) may have benefits, let alone softphone 
use when travelling.

Khalid was looking into USB dongle VoIP thingies not long ago - perhaps 
they have a role in your calling, too.


On 13-12-02 10:05 PM, Adam Glauser wrote:
> For what it's worth, I've been pretty happy with Acanac for DSL. I think
> the pricing used to be even more competitive, or maybe it was just the 1st
> year introductory rate.
>
> I did have one slight disappointment recently. I called to ask about how to
> move to dry loop. They were quite helpful about that. However, I also
> inquired about whether I could get VoIP thrown in, since I'm basically on
> an older version of the DSL plan that now includes VoIP for free. They said
> it was only on offer for new clients. Certainly not the end of the world,
> but it seemed to me they could have at least considered throwing it in for
> me - I've been a stable customer for a while.
>
> All in all I would recommend them, especially if they are still offering
> substantial savings for the longer terms. I'm happy to pay annually and get
> a deal.
>
> On that note, if anyone goes with Acanac, please consider saying that I
> referred you. I would get a free month out of the deal.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin <kb at 2bits.com> wrote:
>
>> He is now on DSL with Acanac, not cable, in north west Waterloo so those
>> plan you see on the site is not what he currently has.
>>
>> He also has VoIP with them too for $600 a year paid in advance. He has a
>> streaming box (similar to what Roku et al). When the box is streaming a
>> movie, VoIP suffers.
>>
>> What he is planning to do is getting cable with Acanac for $750 a year
>> upfront so VoIP.
>>
>> He is not tech enough to investigate/know QoS and what not.
>> On Dec 2, 2013 7:13 PM, "unsolicited" <unsolicited at swiz.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, quite the savings at Acanac, $264/yr, if you pay the $527.40 up
>>> front (instead of $791.40).
>>>
>>> Looks like Acanac only has 2 plans, so he must be on the lower (or
>>> wouldn't have been able to tell you of his plans to up it) - would be
>>> interested in knowing if your friend is happier with the up'ed plan.
>>>
>>> - do you have any sense from what he said to you that his difficulty is a
>>> bandwidth, not a QoS issue? e.g. Would his router or any switches be QoS
>>> aware?
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe - looks like the kwlug-disc archive is at http://kwlug.org/pipermail/
>>> kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/ - perhaps useful to you. Strange - I thought I
>>> remembered it having a search ability. I don't see one now. Seems googled,
>>> though, search terms of "cable site:kwlug.org/pipermail/
>>> kwlug-disc_kwlug.org" may prove fruitful to you.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13-12-02 12:00 PM, Khalid Baheyeldin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I did some research a month or so ago, since I want to stay with
>>>> cable internet, but change Rogers. I deferred the decision until my
>>>> Rogers contract is up and the cancellation penalty expires.
>>>>
>>>> The plan I interested in is: 3 mbps upload / 35 download
>>>>
>>>> Here is what I found:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Start.ca, no contract http://start.ca/services/highspeed 35/3
>>>> unlimited $59.95 no contract
>>>>
>>>> They offer an upload boast to 35/10 with unlimited for $69.95 if you
>>>>   want that. They also waive the $50 installation fee if you have
>>>> active cable with Rogers now.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Acanac http://acanac.ca/cable.html 30 mbps downlaod $65.95 month
>>>> to month, with discounts for longer term.
>>>>
>>>> A friend uses them and their service is generally good, but he
>>>> experiences VoIP issues when streaming video to his TV, so plans to
>>>> upgrade to a higher bandwidth plan (not sure which plan he has now,
>>>> but he pays $600 upfront for a year). They bundle VoIP for free on
>>>> some plans.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Teksavvy http://teksavvy.com/en/residential/internet/cable 35/3
>>>> 300GB $49.95 35/3 unlimited $79.95
>>>>
>>>> 4. Distributel, no contract 35/3  mbps unlimited $59.95
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Joe Wennechuk
>>>> <youcanreachmehere at hotmail.com
>>>> <mailto:youcanreachmehere at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a cheap cable modem for sale? I would like to
>>>> purchase cable internet and keep my costs down as much as possible. I
>>>> was looking at Acanac. I know this discussion has already transpired,
>>>> but who out there is using Cable for Internet, which provider? Are
>>>> they good? How is the Price? any recommendations.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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