[kwlug-disc] OT - EyeSurf

Bob Jonkman bjonkman at sobac.com
Wed May 23 23:29:25 EDT 2012

I just found out that Yak has been acquired by Voice Network. It was 
formerly owned by Globalive, who also own Wind Mobile.  I don't 
understand why a voice communications company (Globalive) would sell one 
of their voice service providers to another voice communications company 
(VN), a competitor in the same marketplace...  I'm thinking that it's 
part of a VOIP shakeout, similar to the ISP shakeout of the early 2000's 
which left only Bell and Rogers as mainstream ISPs...


And, jumping threads a little: VOIP.ms routes calls through some nodes 
in the USA, making those calls subject to the USA domestic surveillance 
program.  Unlimitel routed all its VOIP through only Canadian nodes; 
this may have changed after Unlimitel was acquired by Primus.  Something 
for the tinfoil-hat crowd to keep in mind when choosing a provider.


On 05/23/2012 09:17 PM, Paul Nijjar wrote:
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:01:09PM -0400, unsolicited wrote:
>> One way or the other you are supporting Bell / Rogers, be it dry
>> loop fees, or whatever they call the cable equivalent.
> Yak and Eyesurf both use the Fibernetics backbone, as far as I know. I
> guess they are paying Bell for the last mile stuff, but to me they
> seem a lot less lucrative for Ma Bell than resellers like Teksavvy.
> - Paul
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