[kwlug-disc] Wanted: help in refining presentation

Colin K colin at void11.com
Tue Jul 31 22:57:45 EDT 2012

Thanks chris i will look into this firmware update it should pick up some
slack in data transfers since Freenas has some pretty decent power settings
to begin with the green drives were the most economical at the time.

On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Chris Irwin <chris at chrisirwin.ca> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:01 AM, unsolicited <unsolicited at swiz.ca> wrote:
>> On 7/27/2012 1:33 AM, Colin K wrote:
>>> Fair call about the Green drives my storage system really doesn't
>>> serve files to hundreds of people just me so my needs were more
>>> focused on power consumption than speed but it would be nice if they
>>> were a bit perkier and freenas does have settings to increase their
>>> level of aliveness.  But I've got that all tuned down pretty far
>>> also.  Kind of stinks on the rare occasion that I do need it to be a
>>> bit more expedient but otherwise its fine.
>> What I can't wrap my head around is - as far as I knew, the real wear on
>> a drive is the stopping and starting. So going green is choosing up front
>> to decrease the hard drive life span we're used to?
> I did some research on consumer raid solutions: I want to protect my data
> and I'm cheap. So I don't want to pay for "enterprise" hardware.
> Part of the problem of Green Drives was that they spun themselves down
> after about ~7 seconds in firmware, regardless of what your OS power
> management settings were. Further access attempts would have to wait for
> the drive to spin up. RAID controllers can apparently register this as a
> failed drive, causing it to drop out of the array.
> Apparently WD issued an update to allow you to modify or remove the
> timeout.
> http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,674613/Hard-drives-Western-Digital-also-got-problems/News/
> There are other issues with using consumer drives with actual RAID
> controllers (TLER/CCTL), but I'm not comfortable enough with my knowledge
> there to put it in writing :)
> Personally, I use my green drives for backup drives, and have regular
> desktop drives in my RAID array (using mdadm, not dedicated hardware).
> --
> Chris Irwin
> <chris at chrisirwin.ca>
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