From chamunks at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 19:17:27 2012 From: chamunks at gmail.com (Chamunks Arkturus) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:17:27 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] Panel Discussion: Earning a Living with FLOSS Live Broadcast. Message-ID: Again if you're here do our bandwidth a favor and don't watch it here. It http://www.youtube.com/embed/xPZbKVIfzQo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chamunks at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 19:43:52 2012 From: chamunks at gmail.com (Chamunks Arkturus) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:43:52 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] KWLug 2012.12.03 Panel Discussion: Earning a Living with FLOSS Part Two? Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/embed/1-arwuOUWdE Part Two. Due to wifi sucking. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kb at 2bits.com Mon Dec 3 19:50:58 2012 From: kb at 2bits.com (Khalid Baheyeldin) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:50:58 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] KWLug 2012.12.03 Panel Discussion: Earning a Living with FLOSS Part Two? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is this the permanent link on YouTube? On Dec 3, 2012 7:44 PM, "Chamunks Arkturus" wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/embed/1-arwuOUWdE Part Two. Due to wifi sucking. > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chamunks at gmail.com Mon Dec 3 19:57:18 2012 From: chamunks at gmail.com (Chamunks Arkturus) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:57:18 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] KWLug 2012.12.03 Panel Discussion: Earning a Living with FLOSS Part Two? In-Reply-To: References:

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So the meetups I mentioned during the panel: KW Ruby on Rails http://www.meetup.com/kw-ruby-on-rails (they have not scheduled their 2nd meeting, but 4th Tuesday of each month is their tentative schedule and location is still TBD) Waterloo DevOps http://www.meetup.com/waterloo-devops (Also started recently.) And it looks like there is a SugarCRM Thunderbird plugin: http://www.sugarforge.org/projects/thunderbirdmoz/ (I have not tried it, so I cannot attest to how well it works.) Thanks again Paul for organizing! Andrew (P.S.: Joseph mentioned the calendar that Bob Jonkman helps maintain at WatCamp which contains lots of other tech events in the Region. ) From bjonkman at sobac.com Sat Dec 8 01:36:11 2012 From: bjonkman at sobac.com (Bob Jonkman) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 01:36:11 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] Some meetups and follow-up information from the panel. In-Reply-To: <50C211D5.9020005@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> References: <50C211D5.9020005@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> Message-ID: <50C2DFDB.1090903@sobac.com> Just received the following notice about the KW Ruby On Rails Developers meetup: > New Meetup > > Networking and Topic Discussions over sweet, sweet beer! > http://www.meetup.com/__ms13000909/kw-ruby-on-rails/events/94513922/t/ea1_grp/?rv=ea1&_af_eid=94513922&_af=event&expires=1355095482095&sig=6958a322dd2b9be467a904d0d9b089535c4c085a > > KW Ruby on Rails Developers > > Added by Donnie Marges > > When: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:00 PM > > Where: Morty's 272 King St N Waterloo, ON N2J 2Y9 --Bob. On 12-12-07 10:57 AM, Andrew Sullivan Cant wrote: > Whoops, I took a little longer to post then than I should have. > > So the meetups I mentioned during the panel: > > KW Ruby on Rails http://www.meetup.com/kw-ruby-on-rails (they have > not scheduled their 2nd meeting, but 4th Tuesday of each month is > their tentative schedule and location is still TBD) > > Waterloo DevOps http://www.meetup.com/waterloo-devops (Also started > recently.) > > > And it looks like there is a SugarCRM Thunderbird plugin: > http://www.sugarforge.org/projects/thunderbirdmoz/ (I have not tried > it, so I cannot attest to how well it works.) > > > Thanks again Paul for organizing! > > > Andrew > > > (P.S.: Joseph mentioned the calendar that Bob Jonkman helps maintain > at WatCamp which contains lots of > other tech events in the Region. ) > > > _______________________________________________ kwlug-disc mailing > list kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 263 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From bjonkman at sobac.com Sat Dec 8 02:05:06 2012 From: bjonkman at sobac.com (Bob Jonkman) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2012 02:05:06 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] Android / Google calendar - events as tasks. In-Reply-To: <508702D9.4080108@swiz.ca> References: <5069EE9E.7010004@swiz.ca> <506E0F3C.6090303@sobac.com> <5085D5AD.9060903@swiz.ca> <5086F250.2010704@sobac.com> <508702D9.4080108@swiz.ca> Message-ID: <50C2E6A2.5090102@sobac.com> I just came across this conversation about task manager applications, and thought of our conversation a few weeks (months!) ago: http://identi.ca/conversation/97343644 They discuss Taskwarrior http://taskwarrior.org/projects/show/taskwarrior (which was discussed on the Linux Outlaws podcast a few weeks ago http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/175 ) And they discuss ToDo.txt: https://github.com/ginatrapani/todo.txt-cli/wiki I haven't used either, and probably won't get around to it in the near future... --Bob. On 12-10-23 04:49 PM, unsolicited wrote: > On 12-10-23 03:38 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: >> I've often thought that a Project Management application could use >> CalSch standards to store tasks and sub-tasks (nested without limit), >> and vCards for resources. The output could be entirely iCal and vCard >> feeds, compatible with any calendaring software. Add some basic mail >> functionality (Zawinski's Law for servers), and you'd have a dandy >> Project Management/Calendar/Mail system. Haven't found any such software >> yet.. > > I don't expect this to be possible, the horsepower and complexity needs > of PM software being too great. Consider dotProject. Consider resource > levelling. Suppose you're building the Olympic Games. If the designer > intends to some day get to that level, then that level of complexity has > to be accommodated for up front in terms of design. Few need that level > of complexity, yet it would sure be nice if things would scale and > transition seamlessly. Such as, perhaps, switching from sqlite to mysql > to postgresql. Add Gantt charting and other complexity not intuitively > useful to a calendaring client ... > > Now, that is absolutely not to say that such shouldn't / wouldn't have a > calendaring remote it syncs information with. As a task is assigned is > sends out a message to tell the beastie responsible for the resources > assigned's calendar. (But the PM software considers itself authoritative.) > >> I am still looking for a Free/Libre calendar/mail server. I just >> uninstalled Zimbra Open Source; partly due to admin interface >> shortcomings (lack of granularity in managing the non-standard, >> out-of-date Postfix server), partly lack of full calendar integration >> (no CalDAV; no iCal feeds for input), and partly because of a dependency >> on Adobe Flash for admin reports. >> >> About two years ago I installed Kolab, but at that time the version in >> the Ubuntu repositories wasn't supported by kolab.org, and the version >> distributed by kolab.org used a proprietary package manager (which I >> think is no longer supported either). > > owncloud? (SyncML?) > > [LDAP fits into this mess somewhere, somehow.] > > eGroupware (I thinks it's changed directions though) - at one point I > thought they had a synergy between e-mail, contacts, calendar, tasks, > projects, and help desk. Let alone resources like documents linked > throughout. > > Is this not what SharePoint, et al, are all about? > > CRM? Somewhere between ACT and Sugar CRM and to points beyond? > >> I've been making a list at >> http://bob.jonkman.ca/blogs/2012/10/12/calendaring-server-software/ If >> anyone can help fill in the blanks, or has additional recommendations >> please let me know. > > The problem is more stupidly complex than just servers though. > > All aside from cross-platform, not just Windows / Linux ( / Java?), but > Android / iPhone. > > The very presence of PDA's, and you won't pry them out of people's > hands, means you need some sort of cloud solution. Cloud merely means > non-local / sync'ed home safely. Doesn't mean the cloud isn't your own > internal server. The presence of PDA means that the client has to be > local to the PDA, AS DOES THE DATA, and, more insidiously, compatible > with the cloud that that PDA understands - today, that usually means > Google. Yet Google is broken / minor sub-set of functionality that needs > to be present. Be it tags and contexts for tasks, or the ability to > check off an 'event' as complete. > > So how do you sync to something 'real' via Google? (Embedded data tags > within the notes.) And what happens when the user deletes them then > tries to sync back to the real server? (Even if indirectly.) > > In my current hunt, I've seen two ways of PDA. Schlep files back and > forth via Dropbox (todolist), and sqlite database / individual file > record sync back to real sync'ing app on PC, [monolithic file, a la > btrieve] (mlo). Or you're into a non-trivially cheap / less capable > cloud solution (Toodledo), no-subtasks. > > With few / no desktop apps, except on Windows. > > If there were money in it, it would be done and out there by now. > > There is - it's called (apparently) Outlook, and SharePoint. (Yech!) > > >> On 12-10-22 07:24 PM, unsolicited wrote: >>> To your point(s) ... >>> >>> I came across yesterday somewhere that Google only just announced >>> CardDAV support in the last few weeks. >>> >>> On 12-10-04 06:35 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: >>>> I've been using Google Calendar for events for years, even when I >>>> was still using a paper-based appointment book (long since >>>> abandoned). Google is one of the few calendar providers that comes >>>> close to following the IETF CalSch standards (RFC5545 et al). >>>> >>>> I don't use tasks much, but the calendar Web interface for tasks >>>> does have a "completed" status and indicator (either a check mark >>>> for complete items, or an empty checkbox for incomplete items). >>>> I'm using >>>> https://google.com/calendar/render?gsessionid= with >>>> Chromium or Firefox. >>> >>> Yep. Ugly. (Web interface.) Wish there were a standalone java / Linux >>> / Windows app. (Preferably all 3.) But I don't know of any. >>> >>>> The Google task list shows up as another calendar instance in the >>>> Web calendar interface, but the tasks do not seem to appear in any >>>> of the calendars; the tasks seem to be in some other calendar >>>> store. I've added my Google calendars to the Thunderbird Lightning >>>> plugin. I cannot see the tasks in those calendars, and it does not >>>> seem that I can export the task list, or link to it. >>> >>> Lightning doesn't understand tasks / anything that isn't a calendar. >>> [Not to say there aren't addons out there fudging it (somewhat?). >>> e.g. Toodledo. And not to say it doesn't have (internal) tasks.] They >>> just haven't gotten that far / sync wise. I doubt that they will any >>> time soon. Calendars are a big enough ongoing problem, development is >>> being scaled back on TB, ... >>> >>>> I've also added a bunch of external calendars to my Google >>>> calendar list, including the .ics link from Meetup, and the iCal >>>> link from http://sobac.com/~stopthestink/events-calendar/ That >>>> all seems to work fine. >>>> >>>> I'm not using the Google calendar app for Android, but the mobile >>>> web interface for tasks: >>>> http://mail.google.com/tasks?source=mog&gly=ca (which will redirect >>>> to the mobile Task interface on an Android phone). >>> >>> Yeah, there's that, or the similar widget for calendars. Right-side >>> loading that will also expand out, screen wise. Just like gmail >>> version does.) >>> >>>> So, if you want to use Google Tasks, stick to their Web interface, >>>> either desktop or mobile. >>> >>> I don't actually know of any (standalone) desktop apps that will >>> deal with gtasks. See TaskUnifier on sourceforge for the sort of >>> thing I mean, vs. inclusion in an awkward user interface within >>> korganizer, evolution, etc. >>> >>>> If you want tasks integrated with events (with import/export) try >>>> Thunderbird's Lightning plugin. Not sure how conformant Lightning >>>> tasks are to the CalSch standards. >>>> >>>> I've used Evolution for event scheduling as well, but I don't >>>> remember how well it handles tasks or how conformant it is to >>>> standards. >>>> >>>> From RFC5545, a task (called a "To-Do") is an event with rollover >>>> and completion - if a task has no completed date then it appears >>>> the next day. If there is a due date then it can appear as >>>> "overdue" when it rolls past the due date. If there is a start >>>> date then it does not appear in the task list until that date. >>> >>> It's subtasks that are the real showstopper. Very few facilities >>> have them (except for google) - which means there's little point to >>> google having them / using them - they can't sync anywhere / lack of >>> standalone/desktop) interface. e.g. Toodledo claims subtasks, but >>> it's only 1 level. Beats me how they get away with such >>> marketing-speak. >>> >>>> RFC5545: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545 >>>> >>>> On 12-10-01 06:01 PM, unsolicited wrote: >>>>> One of the annoying things about (Google) calendar is that it has >>>>> no sense of tasks as events (or vice versa). [Never mind google >>>>> tasks for the purpose of this message.] >>>>> >>>>> It just occurred to me I could create two calendars, 'mycal' >>>>> (shown) and 'mycal-done' (not shown). When a meeting has >>>>> happened, for example, moving the event from 'mycal' to >>>>> 'mycal-done' would be the equivalent to marking the meeting as >>>>> completed. (Or cancelled.) Turning the display of 'mycal-done' >>>>> on/off would be the equivalent to ticking (or not) 'Show >>>>> Completed'. >>>>> >>>>> It also occurs to me that if one has a regular 'project' [never >>>>> mind that by definition a project is unique], one could export >>>>> the (calendar) project as a .csv, edit the dates for the next >>>>> round, and import the modified .csv. >>>>> >>>>> [ Should I be looking to apply for a software >>>>> patent for these ideas?] >>>>> >>>>> Any reasons why approaching these these ways doesn't make sense / >>>>> are there better ways? >>>>> >>>>> Anyone know of any good web places where such tips and 'tricks' >>>>> are bandied about? >>>>> >>>>> [It appears to be pointless to hold one's breath that google will >>>>> ever add the concept of 'complete' to calendar events / integrate >>>>> tasks into calendar - a la Palm Desktop / Agendus / DateBk.] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ kwlug-disc mailing >>> list kwlug-disc at kwlug.org >>> http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> kwlug-disc mailing list >> kwlug-disc at kwlug.org >> http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <50C2E6A2.5090102@sobac.com> References: <5069EE9E.7010004@swiz.ca> <506E0F3C.6090303@sobac.com> <5085D5AD.9060903@swiz.ca> <5086F250.2010704@sobac.com> <508702D9.4080108@swiz.ca> <50C2E6A2.5090102@sobac.com> Message-ID: On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Bob Jonkman wrote: > I just came across this conversation about task manager applications, > and thought of our conversation a few weeks (months!) ago: > > http://identi.ca/conversation/97343644 > > They discuss Taskwarrior > http://taskwarrior.org/projects/show/taskwarrior (which was discussed on > the Linux Outlaws podcast a few weeks ago > http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/175 ) > Taskwarrior was probably the best TODO application I've used. I still use it for on-computer-only projects, but it falls down during everyday use due to not being able to interact with it on my phone. I still, through to today, have not come up with a todo method that works on both phones and desktop computers, in which I'm also pleased on both platforms. -- Chris Irwin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rarsa at yahoo.com Sat Dec 8 23:54:35 2012 From: rarsa at yahoo.com (Raul Suarez) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 20:54:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kwlug-disc] Nexus7/Installation - Ubuntu Wiki In-Reply-To: <508DC3B6.4080705@fourpisolutions.com> References: <508DC3B6.4080705@fourpisolutions.com> Message-ID: <1355028875.73499.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> I did it last week, Installing was a breeze, Instructions to reflash the stock android also a breeze The good: - Great job to make it run, most of what I tested works (I couldn't get sound) Wifi worked and the browsed worked well. Where it still needs improvement: - To slow to be usable - Font too small ? Note that this is not the same solution as having Ubuntu and Android side by side on the device. Raul Suarez Technology consultant Software, Hardware and Practices _________________ Twitter: rarsamx http://rarsa.blogspot.com/ An eclectic collection of random thoughts ? ________________________________ From: L.D. Paniak To: KWLUG discussion Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:45:58 PM Subject: [kwlug-disc] Nexus7/Installation - Ubuntu Wiki Has anyone out there tried this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation Apparently it is a development project at this point, but the reported bugs do not include the terms "initrd", "soft lock" nor even "wifi" so it might not be too bad... _______________________________________________ kwlug-disc mailing list kwlug-disc at kwlug.org http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Raul Suarez wrote: > I did it last week, Installing was a breeze, Instructions to reflash the > stock android also a breeze > > The good: > - Great job to make it run, most of what I tested works (I couldn't get > sound) Wifi worked and the browsed worked well. > > Where it still needs improvement: > - To slow to be usable > - Font too small > > Note that this is not the same solution as having Ubuntu and Android side > by side on the device. > > Raul Suarez > > Technology consultant > Software, Hardware and Practices > _________________ > Twitter: rarsamx > http://rarsa.blogspot.com/ > An eclectic collection of random thoughts > > ------------------------------ > *From:* L.D. Paniak > *To:* KWLUG discussion > *Sent:* Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:45:58 PM > *Subject:* [kwlug-disc] Nexus7/Installation - Ubuntu Wiki > > Has anyone out there tried this? > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation > > Apparently it is a development project at this point, but the reported > bugs do not include the terms "initrd", "soft lock" nor even "wifi" so > it might not be too bad... > > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Paniak) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:01:32 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] Nexus7/Installation - Ubuntu Wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50C4A7CC.9000805@fourpisolutions.com> The "Raring" alpha is now available: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Installing_Ubuntu_13.04_on_Nexus_7 Most of the bugs from the 12.10 version appear to have been ironed out and performance is improved. Sizing the desktop for the amount of available real estate is still an issue, but all in all I find it a useful upgrade. The amount of flexibility it brings to a rather capable hardware platform is impressive. Next stop: VNC server On 12/09/2012 09:15 AM, Raul Suarez wrote: > And I was impressed of how well it ran. It seems quite "driver complete". > > If I had a tablet to play I would have left it installed. > > Darcy Casselman wrote: > > As I understand it, the intent of this beta release isn't to provide a > nice user interface. I gather that's coming. It's to ensure all the > underlying hardware-related OS stuff works well on this one reference > platform. WiFi, battery life, camera, on screen keyboard, rotation > (which is still in progress, apparently), etc... > > Darcy. > > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Raul Suarez > wrote: > > I did it last week, Installing was a breeze, Instructions to > reflash the stock android also a breeze > > The good: > - Great job to make it run, most of what I tested works (I > couldn't get sound) Wifi worked and the browsed worked well. > > Where it still needs improvement: > - To slow to be usable > - Font too small > > Note that this is not the same solution as having Ubuntu and > Android side by side on the device. > > Raul Suarez > > Technology consultant > Software, Hardware and Practices > _________________ > Twitter: rarsamx > http://rarsa.blogspot.com/ > An eclectic collection of random thoughts > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* L.D. 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> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:45:58 PM > *Subject:* [kwlug-disc] Nexus7/Installation - Ubuntu Wiki > > Has anyone out there tried this? > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation > > Apparently it is a development project at this point, but the reported > bugs do not include the terms "initrd", "soft lock" nor even "wifi" so > it might not be too bad... > > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For things like notebook > screens they do it in house, but board level problems they send out. > > > Blog: http://www.charlesmccolm.com/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Glauser > Sender: "kwlug-disc" > Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:27:19 > To: KWLUG discussion > Reply-To: KWLUG discussion > Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] Laptop repair shop > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chamunks at gmail.com Fri Dec 14 04:37:59 2012 From: chamunks at gmail.com (Chamunks Arkturus) Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 04:37:59 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] Android / Google calendar - events as tasks. In-Reply-To: References: <5069EE9E.7010004@swiz.ca> <506E0F3C.6090303@sobac.com> <5085D5AD.9060903@swiz.ca> <5086F250.2010704@sobac.com> <508702D9.4080108@swiz.ca> <50C2E6A2.5090102@sobac.com> Message-ID: I cant believe the complete lack of reasonable all platform syncronized todo lists apps myself. I really just want something with the ability of possibly getting complicated but mainly just store an sync my lists of things. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Chris Irwin wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 2:05 AM, Bob Jonkman wrote: > >> I just came across this conversation about task manager applications, >> and thought of our conversation a few weeks (months!) ago: >> >> http://identi.ca/conversation/97343644 >> >> They discuss Taskwarrior >> http://taskwarrior.org/projects/show/taskwarrior (which was discussed on >> the Linux Outlaws podcast a few weeks ago >> http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/175 ) >> > > > Taskwarrior was probably the best TODO application I've used. I still use > it for on-computer-only projects, but it falls down during everyday use due > to not being able to interact with it on my phone. > > I still, through to today, have not come up with a todo method that works > on both phones and desktop computers, in which I'm also pleased on both > platforms. > > -- > Chris Irwin > > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chamunks at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 06:19:33 2012 From: chamunks at gmail.com (Chamunks Arkturus) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:19:33 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. Message-ID: I need a load balancer that can react to queries from a sqlite database. It basically needs to check a sql database for server capacity levels and if the capacity gets close to being reached send players to another server. Then it also needs to react to people wanting to directly move from target point to target point. is there something that could do this? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liberosec at yahoo.ca Thu Dec 20 11:54:41 2012 From: liberosec at yahoo.ca (Fernando Duran) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:54:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1356022481.82695.YahooMailNeo@web120806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > From: Chamunks Arkturus >To: KWLug Discussion >Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:19:33 AM >Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. > > >I need a load balancer that can react to queries from a sqlite database. ?It basically needs to check a sql database for server capacity levels and if the capacity gets close to being reached send players to another server. > > >Then it also needs to react to people wanting to directly move from target point to target point. > > >is there something that could do this? > Hello?Chamunks, Not sure what your architecture is or what you want to solve. What (client) protocols are involved? what's "service capacity" for a database server? For example for a web application requests come in HTTP to a load balancer and it redirects them to one of several web servers. For HTTP client requests you can use nginx which is easy to set up and can do round-robin with weighs (it doesn't poll the status of back-end servers though) or you can use HAProxy. For a database spread over several servers and a database connection/protocol we have clusters (ex: MySQL cluster) that can be load-balanced (there's no sqlite cluster that I'm aware of). Sqlite is a single-file database, so it doesn't work well for concurrent writes (file locks) while for many reads it works pretty well. ?It's very possible that you don't need more than one sqlite database server or load balancing. Reading from a file is fast and if the sqlite db file is not big compared to RAM size it will be cached to RAM by Linux automatically (or you can copy the sqlite db file to a RAMdisk you create). The server utilization for CPU and RAM will be low for sqlite3 in general. I/O (the usual bottleneck in databases) could be an issue if you have many writes, but if this is the case then you probably want to use another RDBMS like PostgreSQL or Mysql. So I'm not sure under what case you'd need to load-balance sqlite. As a?thought?experiment I guess you can have several copies of the sqlite db file in different servers, mount them with remote filesystem (see https://gist.github.com/1870471 for example) to a central server and then write your own script to round-robin access to them or similar. If you have a database spread over different servers now you also have a consistency problem (if you make changes to one db file you need to replicate that to the other files), if changes (writes again) are not frequent perhaps you could use inotify to keep the?copies?of the slqite file in sync. Cheers, --------------------- Fernando Duran http://www.fduran.com From liberosec at yahoo.ca Thu Dec 20 12:27:15 2012 From: liberosec at yahoo.ca (Fernando Duran) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 09:27:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1356024435.55580.YahooMailNeo@web120805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Not sure if this could help http://sqlrelay.sourceforge.net/about.html --------------------- Fernando Duran http://www.fduran.com >________________________________ > From: Chamunks Arkturus >To: KWLug Discussion >Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:19:33 AM >Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. > > >I need a load balancer that can react to queries from a sqlite database. ?It basically needs to check a sql database for server capacity levels and if the capacity gets close to being reached send players to another server. > > >Then it also needs to react to people wanting to directly move from target point to target point. > > >is there something that could do this? > > >_______________________________________________ >kwlug-disc mailing list >kwlug-disc at kwlug.org >http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > >? From chamunks at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 17:29:18 2012 From: chamunks at gmail.com (Chamunks Arkturus) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:29:18 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. In-Reply-To: <1356024435.55580.YahooMailNeo@web120805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1356024435.55580.YahooMailNeo@web120805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Its a cluster of minecraft gaming servers again. Basically the port is 25565 and we are trying to occupy one server at a time but if load gets too full on one server send the players to a new node. Then if the nodes are all getting packed too full let us know so that we can order more nodes brought online. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Fernando Duran wrote: > Not sure if this could help http://sqlrelay.sourceforge.net/about.html > > > > --------------------- > Fernando Duran > http://www.fduran.com > > > >________________________________ > > From: Chamunks Arkturus > >To: KWLug Discussion > >Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:19:33 AM > >Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. > > > > > >I need a load balancer that can react to queries from a sqlite database. > It basically needs to check a sql database for server capacity levels and > if the capacity gets close to being reached send players to another server. > > > > > >Then it also needs to react to people wanting to directly move from > target point to target point. > > > > > >is there something that could do this? > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >kwlug-disc mailing list > >kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > >http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Same as my earlier question about load balancer we could have a server uptime/occupation checker too which would be fantastic. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timdaman at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 18:52:43 2012 From: timdaman at gmail.com (Tim Laurence) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 18:52:43 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] kwlug-disc Digest, Vol 49, Issue 7 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am not sure about something already written for this but LVS, http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/, would probably fit half the bill. LVS lives in the kernel space and does all the forwarding. It basis it's decisions on where to send connections on scoring. That is you pool with servers in it. Each server has a score. 0 means never send traffic to that server. A large number means more traffic is sent to that box. Traffic is forwards to servers in the pool based on the relative scores. The other half of this is a health checking mechanism that monitors the servers in a pool and adjust their scores based on what it sees. I have used "ldirectord" but that set scores based if the server is up or not. You could write a similar monitoring script that inserts the load balancer rules and then updates their scoring based on whatever you want. all the interaction with the kernel space happens through the ipvsadm command. Good luck. --Tim Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:19:33 -0500 > From: Chamunks Arkturus > To: KWLug Discussion > Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. > Message-ID: > kRqbw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I need a load balancer that can react to queries from a sqlite database. > It basically needs to check a sql database for server capacity levels and > if the capacity gets close to being reached send players to another server. > > Then it also needs to react to people wanting to directly move from target > point to target point. > > is there something that could do this? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://kwlug.org/pipermail/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/attachments/20121220/27a54c5c/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of kwlug-disc Digest, Vol 49, Issue 7 > ***************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liberosec at yahoo.ca Thu Dec 20 19:40:16 2012 From: liberosec at yahoo.ca (Fernando Duran) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:40:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. In-Reply-To: References: <1356024435.55580.YahooMailNeo@web120805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1356050416.60500.YahooMailNeo@web120806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Hi, I replied in another email trying to make sense of "sqlite load balancing", but this (minecraft) is very different (you want to "load balance" the application). As I understand minecraft is a Java app that stores user's progress on a file per user (I haven't installed a minecraft server and I'm not very familiar with it) and it can use sqlite or mysql for extra info. Surely other people had thought and implemented solutions specifically for minecraft but as a high level I see two options to "load balance" minecraft (the app, not the "database"). You can keep particular players and their worlds on specific servers and just add more servers for new players/new worlds. Basically user provisioning management (not load balancing). You'd need to write your own push or pull Linux script to identify when a server is "getting full" by translating that into specific RAM memory levels, response times etc, and/or using if possible a minecraft facility that tells you the number of users (being a Java app you are probably RAM-bound and memory is directly proportional to users). Then you can present the info in a web page so users know what server to use, this is more or less how it was done in other games I used to play some 10 years ago. Another option is to separate the java app from the data files, having several minecraft app servers connected to a single data file (plus sqlite/mysql) server (using remote filesystem), this way users can use any minecraft server but I don't know how the network lag would affect the responsiveness for the gameplay.(You'd still need to write or find a polling script for app server?utilization). Cheers, --------------------- Fernando Duran http://www.fduran.com >________________________________ > From: Chamunks Arkturus >To: KWLUG discussion >Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:29:18 PM >Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. > > >Its a cluster of minecraft gaming servers again. ?Basically the port is 25565 and we are trying to occupy one server at a time but if load gets too full on one server send the players to a new node. ?Then if the nodes are all getting packed too full let us know so that we can order more nodes brought online. > > > >On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Fernando Duran wrote: > >Not sure if this could help http://sqlrelay.sourceforge.net/about.html >> >> >> >> >>--------------------- >>Fernando Duran >>http://www.fduran.com >> >> >>>________________________________ >> >>> From: Chamunks Arkturus >>>To: KWLug Discussion >>>Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 6:19:33 AM >>>Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. >>> >>> >> >>>I need a load balancer that can react to queries from a sqlite database. ?It basically needs to check a sql database for server capacity levels and if the capacity gets close to being reached send players to another server. >>> >>> >>>Then it also needs to react to people wanting to directly move from target point to target point. >>> >>> >>>is there something that could do this? >>> >>> >> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>kwlug-disc mailing list >>>kwlug-disc at kwlug.org >>>http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org >>> >>> >>>? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>kwlug-disc mailing list >>kwlug-disc at kwlug.org >>http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org >> > >_______________________________________________ >kwlug-disc mailing list >kwlug-disc at kwlug.org >http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > >? From kb at 2bits.com Fri Dec 21 07:01:52 2012 From: kb at 2bits.com (Khalid Baheyeldin) Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:01:52 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] I've got a question for kahlid and drupal users. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Drupal our of the box has a "page" for each user that can be added to via the Drupal API. Purchases and such can be a simple stand alone module using e.g. Paypal, to a complete ecommerce suite. Since you have a database already, then Drupal will have its own, and ou have to use the Drupal API to switch from the Drupal db to your db, to read and update content on it. Perhaps something custom targeted to your needs would be more appropriate, but it all depends on your exact needs, present and future. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Chamunks Arkturus wrote: > I'm no whizz at coding but I need to create a website that will have > character profiles pulled from a mysql database that my developer friend > creates. > > So basically you can go to reavecraft.com/users/USERNAME and it will show > you the statistics of your player and possibly your avatar. > > Also I need to be able to send purchases and subscriptions to the sql > database so that players can subscribe to the server. Any tips on how > someone who is completely Code-Tarded to get into doing this? We have > about 50$ we can push to this part of the project if someone wants to make > a quick buck. > > Same as my earlier question about load balancer we could have a server > uptime/occupation checker too which would be fantastic. > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > > -- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. Fast Reliable Drupal Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting. Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. -- Edsger W.Dijkstra Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From youcanreachmehere at hotmail.com Sun Dec 23 10:39:01 2012 From: youcanreachmehere at hotmail.com (Joe Wennechuk) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:39:01 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] I've got a question for kahlid and drupal users. In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Codeigniter might be useful. It is RESTFUL like you describe. Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 07:01:52 -0500 From: kb at 2bits.com To: kwlug-disc at kwlug.org Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] I've got a question for kahlid and drupal users. Drupal our of the box has a "page" for each user that can be added to via the Drupal API. Purchases and such can be a simple stand alone module using e.g. Paypal, to a complete ecommerce suite. Since you have a database already, then Drupal will have its own, and ou have to use the Drupal API to switch from the Drupal db to your db, to read and update content on it. Perhaps something custom targeted to your needs would be more appropriate, but it all depends on your exact needs, present and future. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Chamunks Arkturus wrote: I'm no whizz at coding but I need to create a website that will have character profiles pulled from a mysql database that my developer friend creates. So basically you can go to reavecraft.com/users/USERNAME and it will show you the statistics of your player and possibly your avatar. Also I need to be able to send purchases and subscriptions to the sql database so that players can subscribe to the server. Any tips on how someone who is completely Code-Tarded to get into doing this? We have about 50$ we can push to this part of the project if someone wants to make a quick buck. Same as my earlier question about load balancer we could have a server uptime/occupation checker too which would be fantastic. _______________________________________________ kwlug-disc mailing list kwlug-disc at kwlug.org http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org -- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. Fast Reliable Drupal Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting. Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. -- Edsger W.Dijkstra Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. -- Leonardo da Vinci For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H.L. Mencken _______________________________________________ kwlug-disc mailing list kwlug-disc at kwlug.org http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chamunks at gmail.com Wed Dec 26 02:14:33 2012 From: chamunks at gmail.com (Chamunks Arkturus) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 02:14:33 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. In-Reply-To: <1356050416.60500.YahooMailNeo@web120806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1356024435.55580.YahooMailNeo@web120805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1356050416.60500.YahooMailNeo@web120806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This game is not really meant to do this. Im trying to reduce the need to have many different server addresses and just let automagic play where you get routed to the appropriate server. On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Fernando Duran wrote: > lds on specific servers and just add more servers for new players/new > worlds. Basically user provisioning management (not load balancing). You'd > need to write your own push or pull Linux script to identify when a server > is "getting full" by translating that into specifi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aklists at mixdown.ca Sat Dec 29 10:24:02 2012 From: aklists at mixdown.ca (Andrew Kohlsmith (mailing lists account)) Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:24:02 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. In-Reply-To: References: <1356024435.55580.YahooMailNeo@web120805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1356050416.60500.YahooMailNeo@web120806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2012-12-26, at 2:14 AM, Chamunks Arkturus wrote: > This game is not really meant to do this. Im trying to reduce the need to have many different server addresses and just let automagic play where you get routed to the appropriate server. You could do this with a listener on 25565 that talks the normal minecraft protocol; it can see who is trying to log on, query the db and either try to redirect or otherwise marshall the traffic between the user and the selected minecraft server. I'm not sure how well this would work for gameplay, though. I run a minecraft server for my kids and their friends, and when they log on they all want to play together; if you threw one of them off into another server they wouldn't be playing with their friends. -A. From chamunks at gmail.com Sun Dec 30 02:34:39 2012 From: chamunks at gmail.com (Chamunks Arkturus) Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 02:34:39 -0500 Subject: [kwlug-disc] I need Painfully simple load balancing. In-Reply-To: References: <1356024435.55580.YahooMailNeo@web120805.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1356050416.60500.YahooMailNeo@web120806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Message-ID: yeah its a concept thats still pretty alpha its going to be a minigames server but we're hoping to basically use it in such a way that theres multiple types of servers all run under the same domain so we can deploy other vps instances of the same game instantly if we need to. On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith (mailing lists account) < aklists at mixdown.ca> wrote: > On 2012-12-26, at 2:14 AM, Chamunks Arkturus wrote: > > This game is not really meant to do this. Im trying to reduce the need > to have many different server addresses and just let automagic play where > you get routed to the appropriate server. > > You could do this with a listener on 25565 that talks the normal minecraft > protocol; it can see who is trying to log on, query the db and either try > to redirect or otherwise marshall the traffic between the user and the > selected minecraft server. > > I'm not sure how well this would work for gameplay, though. I run a > minecraft server for my kids and their friends, and when they log on they > all want to play together; if you threw one of them off into another server > they wouldn't be playing with their friends. > > -A. > > > _______________________________________________ > kwlug-disc mailing list > kwlug-disc at kwlug.org > http://kwlug.org/mailman/listinfo/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: