[kwlug-disc] Meeting with (not so new) MPs in KW region.

L.D. Paniak ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com
Sat May 7 10:07:26 EDT 2011

On Sat, 2011-05-07 at 09:43 -0400, Darcy Casselman wrote:
> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:34 AM, L.D. Paniak
> <ldpaniak at fourpisolutions.com> wrote:
> > Agreed.  I find it useful to understand the (holes in the) arguments of
> > the other side in this kind of debate.
> You guys are thinking like nerds. 

I may resemble that description.  "Academics" sounds better.

> That won't help you talk to
> politicians.  Don't try to talk like a lawyer if you're not a lawyer.
> Even if you can poke holes in the arguments, you'll still fail.  Tell
> them stories about how this is going to affect your life and your
> business.  Tell them you want to buy things and you will, but the
> market isn't providing things to you in a format you can use.  You
> don't want to be thrown in jail (or fined or whatever) so you can use
> the things you bought to support artists.
> Keep it simple.  Let Michael Geist be the legal scholar.  You have to
> tell them how this affects you *personally*, not in the abstract.
> Darcy.

I agree that discussions should take place from the POV of "aggrieved
stakeholder", but it can't hurt to be prepared for the possibility of
the pol/lawyer attempting to bury you in legalese. You make it sound
like lawyers are infallible.

I need to watch the video you linked earlier.

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