[kwlug-disc] Parliament adjourned ... bills dead (again!)?

Colin Mackay zixiekat at gmail.com
Sat Mar 26 10:21:07 EDT 2011


Alright...  As far as C32 goes, yes it's dead (for now), but where does this
leave us on UBB?  Last I head the CRTC was standing firm, what happens now?
Does UBB go into effect until the new government arrives, or is it still on
hold?

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Paul Nijjar <paul_nijjar at yahoo.ca> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 04:43:02PM -0400, Adam Glauser wrote:
> > On 3/25/2011 4:18 PM, unsolicited wrote:
> >> John Kerr wrote, On 03/25/2011 3:46 PM:
> >>> Ok this gives us another chance to make our views known.
> >>>
> >>> Obviously, it is not a high priority. Be sure to button hole
> >>> candidates and let them know about FLOSS and how it can save our
> >>> governments big bucks.
> >>
> >> REALLY good point John.
> >>
> >> I have two issues:
> >>
> >> (1) I really have no idea what to say. Can someone like Paul put
> >> together a blurb for the list? I think such has been done in the past.
> >> Or, on issues like this, site links have been posted - could that
> >> continue please? e.g. copyright is bigger than us, and links were posted
> >> towards addresses on this intricate topic.
> >
> > My thought is this: There were many groups representing
> > industries/constituencies important to our region which spoke out
> > against the problematic TPM protections in C-32. I'm thinking of groups
> > like national student, teacher, library and software/technology
> > organizations.  A good question would be, given the concerns of these
> > groups, what does the candidate intend to do to ensure that these
> > concerns are addressed in future legislation?
>
> Liberals: "This is a very important issue. A Liberal government is
> committed to creating copyright legislation that protects the rights
> of creators and -- unlike the Conservatives -- will not criminalize
> Canadians for conducting daily activities."
>
> Conservatives: "The conservatives have done more to bring Canadian
> copyright into the 21st century than any other party. Through
> consultation with Canadians we created legislation that would have
> brought Canada into the 21st century -- legislation that allowed time
> shifting, format shifting, and mash-ups. Then the Liberals forced this
> unnecessary election that Canadians didn't want and thrown us back
> into noncompliance of international treaties."
>
> Everybody else: who cares what they say? They won't get elected.
>
> Of course I am paraphrasing the responses, but the point is that
> reasonable questions like these will not get any substantive promises
> or even any substantive information. I think it is worth putting
> together some questions we can ask at all-candidates meetings, but
> nice people like Adam never get very far in getting their real
> concerns addressed. In addition candidates are not accountable for
> what they say during election campaigns, as is proved after every
> election. If I was not so lazy I would find some of the court cases
> that demonstrated this and link to them.
>
>
> - Paul (what? me bitter?)
>
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