[kwlug-disc] UBB comes to Teksavvy

rbclemen at gmail.com rbclemen at gmail.com
Sun Jan 30 19:58:20 EST 2011


Your post office example may stand. Except in this case we are talking about the post office charging you a buck for each letter that arrives at your house per month in excess of 4.  It does not cost them 1.27 to provide me with a GB of data. I would like to see their justification that providing me with a continuous stream of data at the maximum rate a DSL connection can sustain will cost more than 15 bucks more than a DSL line that is connected but not transfering any data for a month.

No I don't want to pay more for the canada post carrier to carry two letters to my door than they do if they were only carrying one. 

And the internet provides services that consume bandwith. That is why we don't use dialup anymore. Bell has always wanted to charge people for phonecalls that were data or faxes differently than regular calls. They weren't allowed to.  

Brent

Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.

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Are you sure your example is reasonable?

Isn't it more like the post office saying after the 100th letter delivered
to your house, there's a surcharge? (Which is what the courier companies
have been doing, and the post office for that matter, and airlines, for
some time now, with gas surcharges.)

If you are receiving many more bytes, shouldn't you pay more? (Without
video, it takes a while to consume a GB.)

On Sun, January 30, 2011 7:36 pm, rbclemen at gmail.com wrote:
> Sorry, meant to elaborate on that one but my Blackberry sent by accident.
> UBB is a vicious attempt to use one monopoly to leverage oneself into
> another. Or looked at another way, Bell is leveraging additional profit
> from every single service offered on the internet. It is absolutely the
> equivalent of Canada Post demanding a cut of every payment made on a bill
> that is mailed to a customer.
>
> To give one potent example, every Netflix.ca customer will be paying
> Netflix about 9 dollars a month, and Bell about a dollar per movie.
>
> Brent
> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
> Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 19:27:00
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> Subject: Re: [kwlug-disc] UBB comes to Teksavvy
>
> On Sun, January 30, 2011 2:27 pm, rbclemen at gmail.com wrote:
>> Co-location doesn't matter from what I hear. The charge will be for
>> anyone
>> using bell's copper. Yes it is unbelievably stupid.
>
> Don't mean to be provocative here - guess I'm just uninformed.
>
> Why is UBB "unbelievably stupid"?


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