[kwlug-disc] UBB hold the phone

R. Brent Clements rbclemen at gmail.com
Tue Feb 1 23:37:45 EST 2011

Let's clarify something here.  It is my impression that UBB as defined
by the CRTC is not something we as consumers are going to receive a
bill for every month from Bell.  What is defined in this tariff is the
amounts that the incumbant carrier (ILEC--aka Bel-gers) is allowed to
charge the Third-Party Internet Access services (TPIA--aka the little
guys) for the bandwidth that is consumed by the TPIA's consumer
customers (you and me).

If I am a customer of Teksavvy and I consume 1 trillion Gb of
bandwidth, Teksavvy receives a bill from Bell for a gazillion dollars.
 If Teksavvy were to not charge me a gazillion dollars in overage
charges then they would have to foot the bill themselves.  If they do
send me a bill for a gazillion dollars and I choose not to pay it,
they can try and sue me for it, but they still have to pay Bell a
gazillion dollars.

The fact that Bell has been ordered to only charge Teksavvy 0.85
gazillion dollars for the one gazillion dollars worth of bandwidth
that my buddy who is a Bell customer was charged the full one
gazillion for (the mandated 15% discount) means that Teksavvy has made
0.15 gazillion dollars by taking me on as a customer and taking ALL of
the risk that I am indeed good for one gazillion dollars.  Cause if I
don't pay my one gazillion dollar invoice from Teksavvy, they still
have to pay their 0.85 gazillion dollar invoice from Bell.

"Insurance packages" aside (which is really just discounted prepaid Gb
that expire at the end of the month--remember how evil people thought
that was on Pre-Paid cellphones, so why the hell would it be ok here?)
that is why small DSL carriers have to charge us the fees.  Not
because the tariff says they have to, but because financial reality
says they have to.


On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Insurance Squared Inc.
<gcooke at insurancesquared.com> wrote:
> I'm not prepared to digest the source document on this stuff.  I'm busy
> posting on forums and other important stuff with brief interruptions of
> work.  Reading summaries by others in this case is going to have to do.
>> Please, *please* actually take the time to inform yourself instead of
>> trusting
>> what other people say. The reason this CRTC ruling is frustrating for
>> Teksavvy customers is that they have no choice, this pricing change is
>> being forced on them:
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