[kwlug-disc] topic request

Bob Jonkman bjonkman at sobac.com
Sat May 1 02:09:48 EDT 2010

 >But not, I think, very low level dpkg tools?

I only know 'dpkg -l' and recently learned that 'dpkg-reconfigure' 
exists. Or is that 'dpkg -reconfigure'?  So yes, yet another session on 
low level dpkg tools would be nice.

And also, when should I use Synaptic vs. Ubuntu Software Centre?  
Aptitude vs. dselect?  Does a package not from a respository installed 
with gdebi still play nicely with dependencies?  Inquiring mind wants to 
know.  (And should someone respond to these questions on-list, I'll need 
reminding at a meeting in a few months anyway)


On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 at 23:22, unsolicited <unsolicited at swiz.ca> wrote 
about Re: [kwlug-disc] topic request:
> Different issues, I think, best dealt with separately.
> But definitely a worthy issue.
> Given threads in the list, it would be interesting to see a similarly
> split presentation - one on both 'OS's, and a second on the two
> package management 'tasks'.
> I wouldn't want too deep a dive on either one though. e.g. OS', first
> stop, is people often need headers to compile against the kernel,
> etc., etc. Next might be a kernel module (e.g. dazuko/compatibility).
> Next could be the kernel itself. [To nod to Bob on his past
> presentation, device drivers get in here too.] Then perhaps a trivial
> kernel mod.
>     Also in here, but perhaps making things too complex, is following the
> messages that appear on screen, which is doing what, which are/n't
> kernel related, etc.
> Same 'higher' level on package management - system software
> maintenance steps: apt-get (aptitude?) mechanics, then rpm mechanics.
> Perhaps, both, to wrapping something up to give to someone else, or to
> send up to a repository. But not, I think, very low level dpkg tools?
> So, one night, OS', Debian (kubuntu) contrasted with CentOS, another
> night aptitude contrasted with rpm?
> Certainly package management methodology has been a not infrequent 
> list topic - usually coming up with 'what distro to use.' The answer 
> to which seems to usually surround which package manager are you more 
> comfortable with.
> Khalid Baheyeldin wrote, On 04/30/2010 9:07 PM:
>> How about you expand that to include packaging application as .deb?
>> Would that make for a 2 hour-ish presentation.
>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Eric Gerlach
>> <eric+kwlug at gerlach.ca<eric%2Bkwlug at gerlach.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:19:40PM -0400, Stephen Palmateer wrote:
>>>> Permission to request a discussion about building the linux kernel 
>>>> from
>>>> source.
>>>> I am attempting to build the CentOS 5.4 kernel from source and am
>>>> frustrating my colleagues with questions they cannot answer.
>>>> I have only been using linux (of one colour or another) for about a 
>>>> year
>>> now
>>>> and have been attending the KWLUG meetings for the last four months.
>>> I can do something on building kernels The Debian Way (TM) (also
>>> includes Ubuntu), but I can't help with CentOS.  I could probably split
>>> the presentation with someone else.
>>> No demos though... takes a little while to build a kernel :-)
>>> Also, I'm not ready to commit to a date on this one, so don't sign me
>>> up.
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