[kwlug-disc] Netgear WNDR3700, further details. [Was: Re: Fwd: [TLUG]: Dlink DIR-825 wireless router one-day sale $119.99]
unsolicited at swiz.ca
Sat May 22 07:30:12 EDT 2010
Lori Paniak wrote, On 05/22/2010 6:45 AM:
> This is your new Netgear, correct?
> Why not use the latest firmware, Backfire?
That's a longer more involved answer. Has more to do with learning
curve than anything else - there are only so many hours in day, too
many things to learn about beyond OpenWRT, and one must prioritize.
Fear, intimidation, lack of command line knowledge, etc. (-:
No doubt, once the learning curve is crossed, I'll feel silly.
For the moment I intended to run stock firmware, explore, be happy.
And some day, when time permits, explore OpenWRT.
I posted the message more for people like Khalid, who would be
reassured that the device came running OpenWRT.
Having now just spent a few hours wandering around the OpenWRT web
site, and not feeling like I've come out of it knowing much more than
I did going in to it ...
Some day, probably within a few days, the way things are going.
Original purpose was to gain 802.11n and another gb switch, not as a
gateway. Perhaps another backup repository off the usb, too.
I'm still a little conflicted in terms of gateway device - having
played with LinuxMCE (gave up due to poor attitude in forums), there
is clearly a certain advantage to having the gateway device be
MythBuntu rather than have it behind OpenWRT. OTOH, OpenWRT brings a
great deal of functionality in a black box with has a certain attraction.
I'm also mindful of your comment that before jumping into a black box
one should understand the nature of the box - so if I was going to go
OpenWRT, your comment of experiencing it on a full PC, first, makes a
certain amount of sense.
The whole learning curve issue(s) is why I still don't have a
MythBuntu box with compatibility / dazuko and asterisk running, with
courier e-mail / egroupware, and more, in vm's. There is only so much
time in a day, and a significant intimidation factor(s).
> On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 06:38 -0400, unsolicited wrote:
>> Found telnetenable as per this thread:
>> http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=58349 (found via a link
>> from an openwrt message).
>> Telnetting in I get:
>> BusyBox v1.4.2 (2009-12-29 12:59:46 CST) Built-in shell (ash)
>> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
>> _______ ________ __
>> | |.-----.-----.-----.| | | |.----.| |_
>> | - || _ | -__| || | | || _|| _|
>> |_______|| __|_____|__|__||________||__| |____|
>> |__| W I R E L E S S F R E E D O M
>> KAMIKAZE (7.09) -----------------------------------
>> * 10 oz Vodka Shake well with ice and strain
>> * 10 oz Triple sec mixture into 10 shot glasses.
>> * 10 oz lime juice Salute!
>> unsolicited wrote, On 05/21/2010 2:07 PM:
>>> Either this is the one Khalid has been talking about since his first
>>> message, or I'm missing something.
>>> My Netgear WNDR3700 arrived yesterday.
>>> (List) References:
>>> [including openwrt / ddwrt]
>>> Richard Weait wrote, On 05/21/2010 12:39 PM:
>>>> Here's one for ya', unsolicited.
>>>> Dual band N 5GHz and 2.4 GHz
>>>> 4+ 1 gigabit ports
>>>> 1 USB port
>>>> 64M ram
>>>> Be sure to get the "B1" revision. This is apparently marked on the box.
>>>> Reports in the wild of loading OpenWRT on this router. The official
>>>> hardware list has not been updated to reflect this.
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh at mimosa.com>
>>>> Date: Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:18 AM
>>>> Subject: [TLUG]: Dlink DIR-825 wireless router one-day sale $119.99
>>>> To: tlug at ss.org
>>>> Lennart has recommended this router. It is certainly not the
>>>> cheapest, but there is a one-day sale on it at Infonec:
>>>> This appears to be about 10% less than the best other local price.
>>>> I've enclosed one of Lennart's postings on this router.
>>>> Before that, here's a bit from a later discussion. 64M in an
>>>> off-the-shelf wireless router seems remarkable. Invaluable if you intend
>>>> to build custom firmware with an abnormal amount of software.
>>>> | Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:25:06 -0500
>>>> | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>>>> | Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Announcing OpenWrt/MLPPP - multilink firmware for
>>>> | consumer routers - Caneris & Acanac
>>>> | On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 01:53:03PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
>>>> | > | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>>>> | >
>>>> | > | Actually some DIR-825 rev B seem to have 64MB according to the
>>>> | > | developers. Some have 32MB. No one seems to know why this is.
>>>> | >
>>>> | > Nice! It would be nice to know if you could some how tell before you
>>>> | > buy.
>>>> | None that I know of. It seems dlink considers them equivelant and it's
>>>> | just a build variation. Not sure if they need a different FCC id if
>>>> | they change the ram like that, so perhaps there is a difference.
>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>>>> | Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:54:03 -0400
>>>> | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>>>> | Reply-To: tlug at ss.org
>>>> | To: tlug at ss.org
>>>> | Subject: [TLUG]: New wireless router
>>>> | So two days ago, my WL-500gP suddenly decided to stop doing its job,
>>>> | and after pwoer cycling it it no longer booted.
>>>> | Reflashing it seemed to get it booting again, but not for long, and I
>>>> | then discovered the WAN port had turned into a LAN port on the switch,
>>>> | which meant the switch chip was no longer being configuring correctly.
>>>> | So time for a new router. After looking what was available at local
>>>> | stores and researching them, I found out simultanious dual band routers
>>>> | with 802.11n are actually getting affordable now, and some of them are
>>>> | being worked on and will probably be supported by openwrt and the like
>>>> | pretty soon.
>>>> | So I bought a D-Link DIR-825 rev B1 with 2.02NA firmware (all nicely
>>>> | labeled on the outside of the box. Linksys could learn something
>>>> | Very specificly NOT a rev A1 (which is apparently a piece of junk, with
>>>> | totally different hardware and software inside). The rev A uses an
>>>> | CPU (300MHz proprietary RISC chip), while the rev B uses a 680MHz
>>>> | 7161 MIPS 24k CPU. The rev B runs linux (the A does not apparently).
>>>> | So with a 680MHz CPU and 64MB ram it is quite decent performance.
>>>> | So far I am impressed. The signal strength for the various wifi
>>>> | machines in the house is much improved over the old router too.
>>>> | I really like the guest wifi feature. I now have it running as:
>>>> | wifi5 - WPA2/AES 5GHz 802.11 a/n
>>>> | wifi24 - WPA2/AES 2.4GHz 802.11 b/g/n
>>>> | wifi24ds - WEP 128bit 2.4GHz 802.11 b/g guest (firewalled from the
>>>> | other wifi and hence internet only access). I run my Nintendo DS lite
>>>> | on this now. I never had it able to connect to the internet before
>>>> | because it doesn't do WPA.
>>>> | The only issues with the default settings are a couple of misfeatures.
>>>> | The QoS support by default tries to measure the upstream bandwidth to
>>>> | decide how to configure the QoS support. This takes a while, isn't
>>>> | accurate and slows down boot time by a noticeable amount. I turned
>>>> | that off and set my 1Mbit upstream speed manually. Boot time is now
>>>> | much better and nicer. The second misfeature, is a capcha at the login
>>>> | screen in addition to the password. That is totally stupid, not even
>>>> | a well done capcha, and I turned that off too. Everything else is
>>>> | Well the blue LEDs for the ports and power and such are awfully bright.
>>>> | I made mine face the wall for now. Apparently blue means working and
>>>> | amber means not yet working on this thing rather than red/green.
>>>> | So I would certainly recommend the DIR0825 rev B for anyone that wants
>>>> | the everything in one and at the same time wifi router. Once openwrt
>>>> | and such hopefully one day runs on it, it will just get better.
>>>> | I also like the fact that the first thing you see when you open up the
>>>> | box, is a printed copy of the GPL along with an offer of getting a disc
>>>> | with the GPL parts of the code by writing them or sending an email.
>>>> | You can also download it from the website ofcourse. The CD with the
>>>> | windows software also has a note on the back for Mac and Linux (both
>>>> | listed explicitly) users telling them where on the CD to find the
>>>> | documentation files.
>>>> | --
>>>> | Len Sorensen
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