[kwlug-disc] Netgear WNDR3700, further details. [Was: Re: Fwd: [TLUG]: Dlink DIR-825 wireless router one-day sale $119.99]

unsolicited unsolicited at swiz.ca
Sat May 22 07:30:12 EDT 2010


Lori Paniak wrote, On 05/22/2010 6:45 AM:
> This is your new Netgear, correct?
> 
> Why not use the latest firmware, Backfire?
> 
> http://downloads.openwrt.org/backfire/10.03/

That's a longer more involved answer. Has more to do with learning 
curve than anything else - there are only so many hours in day, too 
many things to learn about beyond OpenWRT, and one must prioritize. 
Fear, intimidation, lack of command line knowledge, etc. (-:

	No doubt, once the learning curve is crossed, I'll feel silly.

For the moment I intended to run stock firmware, explore, be happy. 
And some day, when time permits, explore OpenWRT.

I posted the message more for people like Khalid, who would be 
reassured that the device came running OpenWRT.

Having now just spent a few hours wandering around the OpenWRT web 
site, and not feeling like I've come out of it knowing much more than 
I did going in to it ...

Some day, probably within a few days, the way things are going.

Original purpose was to gain 802.11n and another gb switch, not as a 
gateway. Perhaps another backup repository off the usb, too.

I'm still a little conflicted in terms of gateway device - having 
played with LinuxMCE (gave up due to poor attitude in forums), there 
is clearly a certain advantage to having the gateway device be 
MythBuntu rather than have it behind OpenWRT. OTOH, OpenWRT brings a 
great deal of functionality in a black box with has a certain attraction.

I'm also mindful of your comment that before jumping into a black box 
one should understand the nature of the box - so if I was going to go 
OpenWRT, your comment of experiencing it on a full PC, first, makes a 
certain amount of sense.

The whole learning curve issue(s) is why I still don't have a 
MythBuntu box with compatibility / dazuko and asterisk running, with 
courier e-mail / egroupware, and more, in vm's. There is only so much 
time in a day, and a significant intimidation factor(s).



> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 06:38 -0400, unsolicited wrote:
>> Found telnetenable as per this thread:
>> http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=58349 (found via a link
>> from an openwrt message).
>>
>> Telnetting in I get:
>>
>> BusyBox v1.4.2 (2009-12-29 12:59:46 CST) Built-in shell (ash)
>> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
>>
>>    _______                     ________        __
>>   |       |.-----.-----.-----.|  |  |  |.----.|  |_
>>   |   -   ||  _  |  -__|     ||  |  |  ||   _||   _|
>>   |_______||   __|_____|__|__||________||__|  |____|
>>            |__| W I R E L E S S   F R E E D O M
>>   KAMIKAZE (7.09) -----------------------------------
>>    * 10 oz Vodka       Shake well with ice and strain
>>    * 10 oz Triple sec  mixture into 10 shot glasses.
>>    * 10 oz lime juice  Salute!
>>   ---------------------------------------------------
>>
>> FWIW
>>
>> unsolicited wrote, On 05/21/2010 2:07 PM:
>>> Either this is the one Khalid has been talking about since his first 
>>> message, or I'm missing something.
>>>
>>> My Netgear WNDR3700 arrived yesterday.
>>>
>>> (List) References: 
>>> http://astoria.ccjclearline.com/pipermail/kwlug-disc_kwlug.org/2010-May/004748.html 
>>>
>>> [including openwrt / ddwrt]
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard Weait wrote, On 05/21/2010 12:39 PM:
>>>> Here's one for ya', unsolicited.
>>>>
>>>> ftp://ftp10.dlink.com/pdfs/products/DIR-825/DIR-825_ds.pdf
>>>>
>>>> Dual band N 5GHz and 2.4 GHz
>>>> 4+ 1 gigabit ports
>>>> 1 USB port
>>>>
>>>> 64M ram
>>>>
>>>> Be sure to get the "B1" revision.  This is apparently marked on the box.
>>>>
>>>> Reports in the wild of loading OpenWRT on this router.  The official
>>>> hardware list has not been updated to reflect this.
>>>> http://fetzig.org/2009/12/24/openwrt-on-the-d-link-dir-825/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: D. Hugh Redelmeier <hugh at mimosa.com>
>>>> Date: Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:18 AM
>>>> Subject: [TLUG]: Dlink DIR-825 wireless router one-day sale $119.99
>>>> To: tlug at ss.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lennart has recommended this router.  It is certainly not the
>>>> cheapest, but there is a one-day sale on it at Infonec:
>>>> <http://www.infonec.ca/site/main.php?module=detail&id=437209>
>>>>
>>>> This appears to be about 10% less than the best other local price.
>>>>
>>>> I've enclosed one of Lennart's postings on this router.
>>>>
>>>> Before that, here's a bit from a later discussion.  64M in an
>>>> off-the-shelf wireless router seems remarkable.  Invaluable if you intend
>>>> to build custom firmware with an abnormal amount of software.
>>>>
>>>> | Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:25:06 -0500
>>>> | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>>>> | Subject: Re: [TLUG]: Announcing OpenWrt/MLPPP - multilink firmware for
>>>> |     consumer routers - Caneris & Acanac
>>>> |
>>>> | On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 01:53:03PM -0500, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:
>>>> | > | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>>>> | >
>>>> | > | Actually some DIR-825 rev B seem to have 64MB according to the 
>>>> dd-wrt
>>>> | > | developers.  Some have 32MB.  No one seems to know why this is.
>>>> | >
>>>> | > Nice!  It would be nice to know if you could some how tell before you
>>>> | > buy.
>>>> |
>>>> | None that I know of.  It seems dlink considers them equivelant and it's
>>>> | just a build variation.  Not sure if they need a different FCC id if
>>>> | they change the ram like that, so perhaps there is a difference.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> | Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:54:03 -0400
>>>> | From: Lennart Sorensen <lsorense at csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
>>>> | Reply-To: tlug at ss.org
>>>> | To: tlug at ss.org
>>>> | Subject: [TLUG]: New wireless router
>>>> |
>>>> | So two days ago, my WL-500gP suddenly decided to stop doing its job,
>>>> | and after pwoer cycling it it no longer booted.
>>>> |
>>>> | Reflashing it seemed to get it booting again, but not for long, and I
>>>> | then discovered the WAN port had turned into a LAN port on the switch,
>>>> | which meant the switch chip was no longer being configuring correctly.
>>>> |
>>>> | So time for a new router.  After looking what was available at local
>>>> | stores and researching them, I found out simultanious dual band routers
>>>> | with 802.11n are actually getting affordable now, and some of them are
>>>> | being worked on and will probably be supported by openwrt and the like
>>>> | pretty soon.
>>>> |
>>>> | So I bought a D-Link DIR-825 rev B1 with 2.02NA firmware (all nicely
>>>> | labeled on the outside of the box.  Linksys could learn something 
>>>> here).
>>>> | Very specificly NOT a rev A1 (which is apparently a piece of junk, with
>>>> | totally different hardware and software inside).  The rev A uses an 
>>>> ubicom
>>>> | CPU (300MHz proprietary RISC chip), while the rev B uses a 680MHz 
>>>> atheros
>>>> | 7161 MIPS 24k CPU.  The rev B runs linux (the A does not apparently).
>>>> | So with a 680MHz CPU and 64MB ram it is quite decent performance.
>>>> | So far I am impressed.  The signal strength for the various wifi 
>>>> enabled
>>>> | machines in the house is much improved over the old router too.
>>>> |
>>>> | I really like the guest wifi feature.  I now have it running as:
>>>> |
>>>> | wifi5 - WPA2/AES 5GHz 802.11 a/n
>>>> |
>>>> | wifi24 - WPA2/AES 2.4GHz 802.11 b/g/n
>>>> |
>>>> | wifi24ds - WEP 128bit 2.4GHz 802.11 b/g guest (firewalled from the
>>>> | other wifi and hence internet only access).  I run my Nintendo DS lite
>>>> | on this now.  I never had it able to connect to the internet before
>>>> | because it doesn't do WPA.
>>>> |
>>>> | The only issues with the default settings are a couple of misfeatures.
>>>> | The QoS support by default tries to measure the upstream bandwidth to
>>>> | decide how to configure the QoS support.  This takes a while, isn't 
>>>> that
>>>> | accurate and slows down boot time by a noticeable amount.  I turned
>>>> | that off and set my 1Mbit upstream speed manually.  Boot time is now
>>>> | much better and nicer.  The second misfeature, is a capcha at the login
>>>> | screen in addition to the password.  That is totally stupid, not even
>>>> | a well done capcha, and I turned that off too.  Everything else is 
>>>> great.
>>>> | Well the blue LEDs for the ports and power and such are awfully bright.
>>>> | I made mine face the wall for now. Apparently blue means working and
>>>> | amber means not yet working on this thing rather than red/green.
>>>> |
>>>> | So I would certainly recommend the DIR0825 rev B for anyone that wants
>>>> | the everything in one and at the same time wifi router.  Once openwrt
>>>> | and such hopefully one day runs on it, it will just get better.
>>>> |
>>>> | I also like the fact that the first thing you see when you open up the
>>>> | box, is a printed copy of the GPL along with an offer of getting a disc
>>>> | with the GPL parts of the code by writing them or sending an email.
>>>> | You can also download it from the website ofcourse.  The CD with the
>>>> | windows software also has a note on the back for Mac and Linux (both
>>>> | listed explicitly) users telling them where on the CD to find the
>>>> | documentation files.
>>>> |
>>>> | --
>>>> | Len Sorensen
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