[kwlug-disc] DuckDuckGo.com -- an alternate search engine
unsolicited at swiz.ca
Tue Jul 27 17:21:09 EDT 2010
Ralph Janke wrote, On 07/27/2010 4:51 PM:
> On 07/27/2010 04:38 PM, unsolicited wrote:
>> Ralph Janke wrote, On 07/27/2010 12:32 PM:
>> Because it is a hidden black box that history has demonstrated can
>> have nefarious elements. 'Nefarious' meaning different things to
>> different people. (See Khalid's note.)
> beginning to sandbox your browser (in clear distinction to ActiveX) from
> the rest of the computer.
Think MUCH bigger.
In essence, your comment says that you think every user of every page
should pre-review the code before actually displaying the page, to vet
that it doesn't do anything nefarious, according to their own definition.
Not gonna happen.
Practically: This would be like knowing what temperature you like your
toast toasted at, and measure the temperature the toaster puts out,
adjusting the darkness dial until you get what you want - if you can.
Instead, people choose a setting, toast a piece or two, adjust the
setting, and eat the toast. Repeat until satisfied. Upon getting
REALLY black toast, they toss it and try again (destructive testing) -
on a web page, the act of going to a page also means it's too late.
that they can disable it) and they get bitten, and everyone looks at
for reasons Khalid has well laid out, and functionality decreases,
perhaps even to the point wherein the purpose for going to that page
can no longer be achieved. [Since I much prefer text only e-mail, no
html, I guess I'm well in this latter camp.] And everyone thinks
they're just paranoid (even if they're not wrong), and they're just
> Yes, I agree there are still some things that a problematic, but I would
> more control over
Arguably, if this thought was common, greasemonkey would be bundled
>> And if you don't agree, you usually don't get the value for which you
>> went to the page in the first place. (Thus Khalid's graceful
>> degradation comment.)
But with search, we just want the text. Perhaps a picture or two. No
ads, no refreshes, no anything else ... just GIVE ME THE ANSWER! If we
knew they didn't have the answer, we wouldn't have gone there in the
first place. And, somehow, not having the answer almost becomes the
fault of the page creator. <sigh>
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