[kwlug-disc] Long distance providers

Bob Jonkman bjonkman at sobac.com
Wed Apr 28 23:46:53 EDT 2010


unsolicted puzzles:

> I ultimately have no choice but a non-Rogers provider. And, since I 
> can't get decent service over the bell copper, I have no choice but to 
> use Rogers as a provider. The very model of a modern major catch 22. 

Rogers, like Bell, is required by the CRTC to offer third-party access 
to their infrastructure for independent ISPs.  Up to now, none of them 
have wanted to deal with Rogers either, but Teksavvy will soon be 
providing cable access in the GTA.  No word on whether it includes KW.

    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24137777-Ontario-cable-coming-soon-email-from-TSI


Synopsis from the DSLReports thread:  No throttling, but still limited 
to the Rogers monthly caps.

--Bob.

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 at 22:30, unsolicited <unsolicited at swiz.ca> wrote 
about Re: [kwlug-disc] Long distance providers:
> Bob Jonkman wrote, On 04/28/2010 8:27 PM:
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 at 14:35, unsolicited <unsolicited at swiz.ca> wrote 
>> about Re: [kwlug-disc] Long distance providers:
>>> Don't know if I can receive anything on 25, but I doubt it. Anyone 
>>> tested this on Rogers Internet (residential), for running one's own 
>>> mail server?
>>
>> Yes, at least five years ago.  While you could receive on port 25 it 
>> is clearly against Rogers' terms of service.  And their blocking of 
>> outbound port 25 was the reason for switching to Teksavvy.
>
> Agreed re: terms of service, but if they don't whine, and they don't 
> with minimal use - I can't speak to smtp, but I can for ssh (& 
> tunnelling) - if it works, go with it.
>
> Remembered just now that I can test this via ssh out to sdf then ssh 
> back in. Works fine on 22, 80, zip on 25.
>
> So, can't go anywhere except Rogers on 25, and nothing can come in on it.
>
> Since I'll never have an outside machine (for purposes of this 
> discussion), I ultimately have no choice but a non-Rogers provider. 
> And, since I can't get decent service over the bell copper, I have no 
> choice but to use Rogers as a provider. The very model of a modern 
> major catch 22.
>
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