[kwlug-disc] Rogers Bandwith Limit - Consequences of exceeding?

unsolicited unsolicited at swiz.ca
Mon Feb 2 02:51:27 EST 2009

Bell owns the copper. Your dry loop fee is to Bell for the use of the 
copper. (Thus, your copper connects to a Bell DSLAM - at which point 
you become subject to their traffic shaping.) Fibre, wireless, etc. 
don't use these copper lines (Rogers or Bell). Part of why fibre is so 
cost prohibitive is (usually) you have to pay for them to lay their 
own line into your premises.

There is a fair bit of verbiage flying about with respect to laying a 
new infrastructure out there to replace copper (both Bell's and 
Roger's) to the home with fibre. Unless the government ends up owning 
the infrastructure, and probably even then, be prepared for the 
traffic shaping verbiage to continue for the foreseeable future.

Or any other replacement, such as wireless. Someone is going to have 
to own the poles, towers, satellites, or whatever.

Kyle Spaans wrote, On 02/01/2009 10:57 PM:
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 5:45 PM, unsolicited <unsolicited at swiz.ca> wrote:
>> I dislike the idea of dry loop - Bell still gets their cut, and I find that
>> idea offensive.
> Really? I ordered TekSavvy dry-loop DSL because I didn't want to have to
> pay for a phone line (have cell phone). I knew that TekSavvy used a lot of
> Bell's infrastructure, so I'd still be indirectly giving Bell money, but how is
> a dry-loop giving them even more?

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