[kwlug-disc] (In progress) kwlug candidate meeting site sourced.

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Sat Dec 19 16:55:29 EST 2009

Chris Frey wrote, On 12/19/2009 3:51 PM:
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 03:02:44AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>   i could write more but i think the discussion of where to meet is
>> premature.  i think what has to be clarified first is what kwlug is
>> trying to *do*.  once that's clearly defined, answering the rest of
>> the questions should be easier.
> As long as we remember that whatever KWLUG tries to do depends entirely
> on what the members are willing to give.
> In other words, if Person A wants KWLUG to go in Direction B, then
> Person A has to do 90% of the work to get us there.
> I think Richard, Paul, and the Secret Cabal are good examples.  They
> each had visions of how to improve the LUG, even if they didn't think
> of it that way, and they quietly step up to fill the void.
> So, I'd say that the organic stream of volunteer presentations is an
> impressive mark of success.  There's always room for improvement, but
> let's not discount what we already have.

Well said - both of you.

I see what Bob is saying, but I don't think I agree that we must 
define ourselves, and I don't think that it's possible. kwlug is a 
group of hobbyists, technical aficionados, Linux (and all that it 
means) advocates, FOSS advocates (and all that that means), local and 
larger community 'activists' (enthusiasts?), computer enthusiasts (and 
all the sharing, learning, and inherent mentoring that that means), 
and many more characteristics, all mushed together.

To different degrees - within each individual. And to different 
degrees - as a group of individuals. And to different degrees - from 
minute to minute, and topic to topic. And that's OK. Compelling even. 

I agree with Chris - kwlug is whatever kwlug's members contribute, in 
that place and time and moment, and topic. The next second it will be 
similar but not the same. Depending upon the presence, place, time, 
moment, topic.

It's all good.

And won't change just because we meet in a particular location.

Here's an example ... Raul's last presentation. Arguably technical. 
Presented as "Here's how I remotely help my Dad." How can that NOT be 
inclusive of everyone even remotely interested in attending kwlug. I 
wouldn't want to even begin to try to label or define the nature of 
the content or the interested audience. But I would say it is 
inclusive, participatory, and welcome to and by all.

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